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Necrophiliac in need of assistance (156)

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A little different from the usual discussion that goes on around here, but I need some help.

I'm a necrophile, and I absolutely cannot cum unless a dead body is involved. Doesn't matter the state of decomposition, gender, amount of mutilation involved (the more the better, but still), but I have to see a corpse if I want sexual gratification.

Relationships are nigh impossible for me, sex is incredibly unsatisfying and I'm obsessed with hurting other people. I'm currently seeing a shrink, but I was hoping someone might have some suggestions as to how I can get some relief until my professional help comes through.

If anyone has any experiences, suggestions or advice, please feel free to share. I could really use some help.

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pray...no seriously, just try it

3 .

Another necrophile here, but damn you have it bad man. Mine is more of a "I'm attracted to corpses, but also living people" sort of deal, so I can live a relatively normal life. Good luck with your therapist, I hope things work out

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>>1
Cool story, bro.

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>>2
Religion definitely didn't help. At all. Thanks for the suggestion.

>>3
Must be nice, you lucky son of a bitch.

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>>1
Weren't you on /adv/ yesterday? Or is necrophilia just more common than I thought?

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>>6
I was on /adv/, who sent me to /d/, who suggested I post here. It is more common than you think, but I doubt there's many people that have it as bad as I do.

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Have you considered chemical castration? If you have sexual urges so forceful that they affect your life, and don't much care for them, it could be the option for you.

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>>8
I'm female, already had my tubes tied, am taking a controlled amount of estrogen, an antidepressant and an antipsychotic. They think I have a personality disorder, so alternative therapy is definitely my best bet.

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Er I can't help, but since you're here, could you tell how your shrink reacted and you laid it on him?

I'm in a somewhat similar situation and I have lots of issues, so I'm a bit nervous and would want to hear some experiences. (sorry for off topic)

11 .

I'm necrophile, but the same kind as previous anon. For me a good "cosplay" / play is enough, or at least big dose of imagination, and I like sleepysex too. That not much helps in building relationships, through.

Did you try this? If you are really female, you probably have less problems to find someone who can play dead for you if you play dead for him.

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>>3 here

This is probably a really bad suggestion, but if you are also attracted to skeletons, you could probably buy one of the kinds they use in high school bio labs to use as a sex toy. I've been considering doing that for myself, but it does seem like a kind of unhealthy thing to do.

>>11
Not necessarily. I can't speak for OP's fetish, but as a female necrophile myself, most of my fantasies either involve fucking a corpse's internal organs with a strap-on or being raped by skeletons. If her fetish is similar to mine, I'm not sure how well that would translate to a person who is asleep.

Out of curiosity, does that work out well for you? I figured that a person's body heat would ruin the illusion.

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This is expensive, however they are coming out with cheaper alternatives soon. I think you can put it in the fridge before you use it :]

http://elasticaengineering.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=100&zenid=plb9bmcgeusabooh4fjad16ce0

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>>14
Daaamn, I am seriously impressed with technology these days.

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>>9
Is it weird that I suddenly find myself very aroused by her?

What am I talking about? Of course it's weird. Not going to stop me, though.

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Sorry to simply relay you again, but both Dark Fetish Network and GuroDate have some pics of real corpses. That might help you out.

Have you tried having a sex partner soak in cold water for a bit to negate their body heat, then lie still on the bed?

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Thought about roleplaying? Would you be able to settle for a guy in some good zombie makeup (maybe with latex-painted wounds and whatnot?)

Personally, I just close my eyes and think about the things that get me off. The physical pleasure is an aid but not what makes me wet. Wish I could help :(

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>>11 here

>>13

Not necessarily. I can't speak for OP's fetish, but as a female necrophile myself, most of my fantasies either involve fucking a corpse's internal organs with a strap-on

Year, it is probably cannot be implement without zomby "guts out" makeup and difficult anyway. Not to mention that I really dunno will it be satisfying for you or not.

or being raped by skeletons.
It's one of mine fantasies to be rape skeleton - a scenery were tomb raders or scantily clad warrior girls defeated by skeletons in the tomb and raped / necroraped (or by mummy / zomby). As gurochan /art/ trash artist I plan to do some pics in this scenery if I have time.

I think if you have imagination powerful enough, that fantasy is easily can be roleplayed. You will need very dark room to see only silhouette, cold air and some kind of appropriate sound sfx. Probably even music, to establish horror movie atmosphere - a tomb or like. Guy use gloves with attached "bones" to touch girl and probably the trousers with same things. Guy can use skeleton costume with attached "bones" but it will probably works only if simple variant works too or you mood sustained with a little light.

Out of curiosity, does that work out well for you? I figured that a person's body heat would ruin the illusion.
I imagine that corpse is fresh or heated, for me the main thing is ability to play with body, not coldness. Anyway I do not have much exp with this - I do not ask most of the times. Not to mention that most girls simply freak out by requests as such anyway.

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Back from a vacation. For everyone that suggested roleplay, dolls and fake skeletons, I've tried it before and it's only the genuine article that gets me off. The past few days I've been in Paris, met a masochist that was willing to do just about anything. Had him take a cold shower before we went to bed where I strangled him and cut him up pretty well, but just the fact that he still had a pulse ruined the entire thing. So. Fucking. Frustrating. Agh.

Pictures don't really do anything for me anymore, but thanks to >>17 for sharing those sites. Still saved a ton of stuff.

Obviously I haven't had the time to talk to my shrink, but I'm going in another three days. I'll be posting occasionally to let you all know how she responds to it. Wish me luck.

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>>19
Oh god, you just gave me the greatest idea. If I can get a willing partner, I could probably figure out how to rig up a skeleton with a puppatering system something similar to Japanese shadow puppets. The motion range would probably be sort of limited though.... I hope one day people will figure out how to put some kind of robotic system inside of a skeleton so it can move on it's own.

>>20
Theoretically, if someone were to create a completely lifelike corpse, would the thought that it wasn't real still put you off? That's pretty intense.

Good luck! Do let us know how it works out for you.

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>>20
Maybe you'll find her dead in the office

WIN ALL AROUND!

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OH BOY, HERE WE GO

This morning I went in for my appointment, gradually told her what I was fixated on and that I'm only attracted to dead bodies. Her reply?

"Oh, wow. ...kind of reminds you of Ted Bundy, or those sort of people doesn't it? Hahaha. I might be in a little over my head here. I'll have to do some research."

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, she laughed, said she was inadequate, compared me to a serial killer, referred me to a psychiatrist and got me out of her office in under ten minutes.

I'm raging a little bit. She didn't diagnose me with anything, but the phrases "personality disorder," "obsessive," and "tendency to harm animals and others" was mentioned enough for me not to want to go back.

be honest with psychologist be laughed at and referred to a psychiatrist for further diagnosis and lots of medication anti-psychotics were discussed in great detail too frustrated to properly rage

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>>23

Well fuck there goes little courage I scooped up in hope to ever tell another soul (primarily a "professional")

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>>23

God, that's horribly rude, not to mention unprofessional. If you've gotten to the point where you needed to seek out professional help, she should know it's nothing to just laugh off. And unless you do have those other things that she listed, she really had no right lumping all those things together. I may be a necrophile, but I certainly don't go around attacking people.

Do you think the person she referred you to will be any help?

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My school referred me to a psychologist when I was on the 6th grade, because I've drawn a Socom in my note, but I was just obsessed with Metal Gear Solid at the time. Ironically, her surname was Guerra (spanish for war - LOLOLOLOLOL) and whenever I talked to her, she always looked at me like she didn't mean to take me seriously.

My brother was also referred to a psychologist by the same school because he easily fell into teasings and was always fighting his classmates (like, with fists). His psychologist was different than mine. She even offered him a stick for him to hit her if he felt she was making him mad. My psychologist was at least smart not to offer me the stick, because I would practically slice her head off with it. And then draw it on /kaki/.

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>>25
I hope so. I've been to a few shrinks before, and been given similar treatment from all of them without even saying as much i.e. immediately labeled as a future serial killer, referred to someone with more qualifications and treated as sub-human afterward.

>>26
WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS GONE

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Wow, mental health systems suck. Would you mind telling me what country you live in so I can be careful never to try to see a professional in that country? Really supports my theory that talking to psychs about sex things is a bad idea.

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>>28
This is from England, but to be fair, I've never been to a sex therapist so I can't speak for people who specialize in fetishes. I'm convinced my fetish is part of a bigger problem, so I don't see the point in trying to address that first, but don't let it deter you.

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>>29
Interesting. My ex had similar problems with therapists in England (not on sexual issues though).

The two therapists I've been to (in the USA) have been far more professional. My current one is clear that some of my issues are beyond his training, but he is just as clear that he is happy to help on the things that he can.

I would suggest two things. 1) do go to a sex therapist. Do a little research and find one that works more with sexual abnormalities rather than one that deals more with relationship issues. 2) go to a regular shrink, don't mention sexual interests. Instead, start to work through some of the things that (in your mind) have lead you to have this interest. Point here is very similar to getting off hard drugs - the drugs are usually a symptom to deeper psychological issues, deal with those issues, and it's a lot easier to deal with the drug use.

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Has stories ever satisfied you? Just a question.

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>>30
Thanks for the excellent advice. I'll be going back to the states in a few years, but in the meantime I'll be trying what you suggested.
>>31
Not even remotely. I'm more of a visual person. ...dreams, on occasion, have been pretty satisfying, but with insomnia it's very temporary relief.

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IT IS I, YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD NECROPHILE

I COME BEARING HILARIOUS NEWS

I went to the psychiatrist that I was referred to. After an hour of very pleasant, helpful professionalism he admitted that he wouldn't be able to do much for me and wanted me to see a forensic psychiatrist, a psychoanalyst, doubled my antidepressants, suggested tranquilizers and tried to get me committed.

I talked him out of institutionalizing me and refused the tranquilizer, but am going along with everything else.

OH MAN
FIVE PEOPLE NOW WHO THREW THEIR HANDS UP IN THE AIR AND HAD NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT TO SAY

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>>33
Oh God, if I ever told any of my friends that I was a necrophile, I would so totally call myself their friendly neighborhood necrophile. Seriously, I laughed for like 5 minutes straight.

He tried to get you committed?! Seriously?! That's a really scary thought, that you're turning to someone for help, and they try to get you institutionalized. Honestly, why can't people accept that not all necrophiles are mentally unstable, it's ridiculous. Most of us lead pretty normal lives, without murderous rampages and hiding corpses in our basements. Seriously.

So what are you going to do now?

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>>34
I was pretty pissed off. The whole session he was eying the call button for the nurse that I set myself in front of, just in case he didn't believe me when I said I've never seriously hurt anyone. This is EXACTLY why I'd been so hesitant to ask for help until now. It's not like I'm not mentally unstable, I'm attracted to corpses and am obsessed with killing people, I just have enough self-control not to do anything that would get me locked up. Until now. Because I really can't give a fuck anymore.

I'm going to see the forensic psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, see if some specialists who have more experience will be of any help. Continue to stand the fuck by until then and try not to do anything incriminating.

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Jesus christ I'm getting pissed off just by reading this, I can't imagine what you feel like lol. What the fuck. Pricks.

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU-
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Well, I'm done for. My work and the forensic psychiatrist got a court order to have me get a 3 hour long mental health evaluation, and they already have a profile made for me. Now if I deny everything, they'll call me a liar, and if I agree to it I'm getting locked up.

Hopefully my years of carefully honed skills of bullshitting and manipulating others will come in handy and I'll be able to convince them I'm harmless, keep my job and stay out of an institution.

Or you'll hear from me on the news in a few weeks for being a danger to my work environment and get lots of coverage from the dicks that think I'm a monster.

LOOKS LIKE THERE'S STILL SOME PRETTY MAJOR DISCRIMINATION OUT THERE, GUROCHAN

WHAT THE FUCK

38 .

Rofl psychiatric scientists

my shrink brings all the necros to the yard, and they're like "we wont do harm", and he's like "the fuck you wont", he will help you and get you charged

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I'm hoping the best for you.

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>>37
Christ, this is really fucked up. Is your job the kind that they'll fire you just for having to go to the health evaluation? Because that would really suck. That's a big fear of mine, that someone will find out that i'm a necrophile, and i'll get fired and unable to get re-hired anywhere else. If I were you, i'd lie my ass off to make sure I didn't get locked up.

>>38
Ok, that was actually pretty funny. Stop making me laugh, things are getting serious!

(as serious as this situation is for you, it's kinda nice to be able to talk to other necrophiles, it makes me feel at least a little more normal)

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>>38
GOD DAMMIT

THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME LAUGH ABOUT IT

>>39
Thanks.

>>40
My job is the kind that will say "you're doing exactly what you're supposed to, good on you for not being afraid to get help. BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO SEND YOU AWAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO RISK TO OUR PERSONAL SAFETY LOL DERPADEEDERP HERP DERP"

You can bet I'm going to be as polite and offended as possible by any accusations and do my damnedest to keep my job and my clean record.

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Thread is becoming a saga of samefagging, but I don't really care

I GOT AWAY WITH IT, GUYS

TURNS OUT MY REFERRAL WAS A HUGE MISUNDERSTANDING

See, the retarded indian psychiatrist I spoke with has English as his second language, and thought that when I meant "I fantasized about stabbing someone" while having sex, he meant that I was stabbing people every time I fucked

SO SILLY
EASILY RESOLVED
NEARLY COST ME MY JOB AND FREEDOM
I FUCKING HATE DOCTORS AND IMMIGRANTS GODDAMN

The guy that I spoke with today was extremely apologetic, called up my managers immediately to reassure them, and he's going to give me some more detailed feedback next Wednesday just in case there's any red tape.

...oh, and I was diagnosed with four mental illnesses and a personality disorder, LOL

AND MY MEDICATION WAS DOUBLED AGAIN LOL

STAY AWAY FROM DOCTORS GUYS

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>>42

My face as I read this post:
:o ?
:D
xD lmao immigrants
:)
o_0
:( wtf

I know I know wapanese faces etc. but I was living this thread down really bad, as I was trying to determine should I do pretty much the same thing as OP. I was really disappointed when the indian guy threw you into that whole mess, and now it turns out it wasn't so bad, but by the end of the same post, it kinda is.

I mean you have a personality disorder? And a bunch of mental illnesses. Is that diagnosis based on you being a necro? Or are you really messed up? XP

Though I really shouldn't be laughing as there's plenty of wrong with me probably, apart from my sexual deviancy.

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I plan on being psychiatrist, once I am maybe I'll focus on strange sexual fetishes and help people like you.

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>>43
.D. >mfw the psychiatrist I spoke with gave a spiel about intolerance and said, no bullshit, that so long as no one is getting seriously hurt and it's consensual, he doesn't care what anyone does to get off

I'm seeing about slandering that indian dick's reputation, he's already made a fool out of himself and thanks to his idiocy I might actually get some decent treatment. I'm pretty messed up, bro, and being a necro exacerbates it, but my sexuality is a separate issue. My mind is like a layered volcano cake. The necrotic center kind of permeates all of the other layers, but to really get out that pervasive fetish there's a lot of other things I have to remove first.

Supposedly if you function fine and aren't killing anyone to get off, you're good to go
So
Yeah

>>44
Good luck. Apparently it's so rare for necrophiles to get professional help, not only is there no official diagnostic criteria for it, but my shrink couldn't find a single reference point or any sources to refer to. He's probably going to get some resources from the internet-

I'd laugh forever if he stumbled across this thread. Seriously.

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>>42
Well, i'm glad that worked out! And you're super lucky the people at your job aren't going to fire you due to your (supposed) mental illnesses. They don't know the specifics though, right? I can't imagine an employer saying, "Whelp, one of my workers is a necrophile. Eh, whatever".

>>44
I was thinking about doing this as well, but I have no idea how i'd explain to people what I did for a living. Have you read My Other Self by Angela Lewis? It's a pretty great book for people interested in learning about fetishes, but I was really upset that the section on Necrophilia was like 3 sentences, when every other fetish got at least a page. Especially because I bought it mostly to read that section. It's the only book I can find on psychologically evaluating fetishes, do you know any others?

>>45
There are some studies done on Necrophilia, but i've never come across one about treating it. Most are on why Necrophiles do what they do. As a Necrophile, they're a little jarring to read because the authors constantly go on and on about how awful Necros are and how we crave the taboo. All right you guys, I get it. We're not normal. No need to rub it in.

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>>46
My boss only knows that I'm a sadist- which he doesn't have a problem with so long as I'm not killing anyone. Apparently if I was just a necrophile there would be no problem at all. ...totally okay for the BDSM subculture to have recognition, but God forbid a fetish that does no harm isn't treated like a plague and a sin.

There are some studies done on Necrophilia, but i've never come across one about treating it. Could you list a few specific ones? I'm sure my shrink has been doing his research, but if there's anything I can contribute I'd love to see what else has been done.

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>>46

I use to do research on fetishes and taboos, from a more scientific, or whatever you want to call it, point of view. I stopped because I was unusually upset with some of the conclusions authors seemed to have made. And especially due to the constant "omg dis gross freak of nature is horrible and perverse" in their professional eye gouging narration.

They tend to dehumanise us in their work and make it seem like our entire lives are revolving around our sexual ... preferences. I have read some statements by people who didn't have this annoying attitude, which do try to paint a different perspective on sexual deviants, but unfortunately, they tend to often say nonconformative things about pedophilia as well, which immediately takes a piss on their reputation and the weight of their word.

Just had to let that go, sorry.

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I like to research obscure subjects like this! I won't touch a pedophile with a 100 foot pole.

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>>49

rofl what

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>>42
That really sucks. I've needed to go to a psychiatrist for a decade now (for more normal things such as crippling anxiety and OCD) but I'm a severe paranoid and I'm terrified that somehow the doctor will KNOW that I like guro or it'll slip and I'll be institutionlized (my greatest fear in life) so I refuse to go. What country were you in? England? Wouldn't this sort of fuck up cost him his job or even possibly land him a lawsuit?

I mean I guess that'd be your call on that but I'm pretty sure if in the US you fucked up so badly that you threatened to institutionlize your client and nearly got them fired, there would be hell to pay. Though I'm not sure you'd be able to get a license there if your English was bad enough to fuck that up on.

This whole thread kinda makes me sad. Some people really need help but when they finally get the courage to do it they get threatened or run off like monsters. The world is terrible.

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>>51
Fortunately I've been able to slander that doctor's name and reputation, and by the looks of things he's going back to general practice in the near future.

In the US I'd be happy to file a lawsuit, but I want to keep this as private as possible, and it would be a hassle since I'm not a resident here. I am in England, so my experience will probably be different than an American's back in the states.

So. The final verdict is that I'm keeping my job, but it's now mandatory for me to see a forensic psychiatrist and the psychiatrist that did my evaluation at least once a week until they give me a clean bill of health.

The psychiatrist that I spoke with and threw all of the diagnoses at me did some research and found the leading expert on necrophilia all the way up in Canada. Took him three days just to get his phone number, but he told the guy my case and he wants to help. Referred the psychiatrist to a forensic psychiatrist here in the UK that is good friends with the Canadian and apparently is the best in this country.

I don't have to pay for the travel expenses to see him, my work is making it a medical issue, and my supervisor that knows I'm going to a therapist is being really quiet and professional about it.

My fuckbuddy is even game for taking the trip over to the city the psych is in the first time I go, and making a night out on the town after I'm done. This guy should be able to get my medication straight- apparently I have anxiety on top of the chronic major depression, and they're hoping that everything will be more manageable once that's sorted out.

;_; I really, really want to believe that everything is going to work out, but after how badly I've been fucked over I don't even dare to hope that this is going to do me any good. At least I'm getting to keep my job and a stupid immigrant got what was coming to him. At my expense. Fuck my life.

53 .

Try to keep a positive attitude though I know that can be hard. I'm actually happy to hear some people are treating you like a human being, that makes me feel better. I really do hope the best for you and that you keep your job. I'm not sure the laws where you are but can they legally fire you? You have a legitimate mental condition that isn't directly impacting your work, it seems. Just because it isn't a normal everyday illness does not mean it isn't an illness you want to get under control.

54 .

So wait, OP, are you getting treated for depression and personality disorder, or for necrophilia? Are you obligated to see a therapist now until they give you a clean bill - because of depression and personality disorder, or because of necrophilia? It's unclear from your posts.

As far as I know, necrophilia isn't a legitimate mental disorder that requires obligatory therapy.

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>>54
A phillia is a legitimate mental disorder. NecroPHILIA

56 .

implying all philias require obligatory medical treatmant
no

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>>53
>>54
>>56
I'm getting treatment for all of it, simultaneously. The forensic psychiatrist is going to focus on my medication, personality disorder and necrophilia, and the regular psychiatrist is going to try and focus on my depression, anxiety and managing my sadism.

I'm not going to lose my job just because I've been diagnosed with a paraphilia, but if I ever show any signs of being a threat to myself or someone else, they have the full right to fire me and lock me up. Obviously if I get caught committing any sort of crime, they have grounds to institutionalize me as well. Basically I'm on probation without ever going to prison or a court room. Shit sucks really badly, but they do seem to want to help me.

In my case, necrophilia DOES require mandatory therapy, since it causes me distress and apparently puts me at very high risk for slipping into the stereotype that everyone associates with necrophiles.

...it's a legitimate disorder, but if it doesn't affect you enough to cause any stress, you aren't obsessed with it and you can still get sexual gratification without it, you not only do not have a paraphilia, but you have nothing to be concerned with. Kink>fetish>paraphilia

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>>57
Wow. That really puts my fetishes and kinks in perspective. Hope everything works out for you. Have you started your medication yet? If so, how has it affected your paraphilia?

59 .

Google is your friend. Paraphilia is not the superlative of kink, nor are all paraphilias considered mental disorders.

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>>47

Certainly! If your new psychiatrist runs a search on necrophilia on PubMed, a lot of results come up that I don't have access to that they might. Whatever I could get my hands on I put into a zip file for you and anyone else interested in reading more on the subject. A lot of it came out of the library, so I had to either scan or take pictures of the pages, so let me know if you have any problems making out the words and i'll go back and rescan/photograph the pages.

http://www.mediafire.com/?qz57l4dgyi0t43y

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>>58
I've started my medication, and my sex drive is practically gone now. Since I wasn't enjoying ordinary sex anymore, the only real change is that I'm not sexually obsessed with corpses anymore- I'd go so far as to say that it's giving me relief from my "problem."

>>59
No, but any paraphilia can be diagnosed as a mental disorder if it's unwanted, disrupts someone's life and/or causes distress.

>>60
He's actually going so far as to look up some of the papers this psychiatrist that I'm seeing has written, and a friend of mine is seeing if he still has access to his university's library. Thank you for the file, I'll look forward to reading through it.

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>>60
Thanks for that. Looks to be an interesting read.

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>>61
>>62

Not a problem!

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>>45
OH GOD

65 .

>>64
FUCK
>>45
OH GOD

66 .

So. Had another appointment. Am officially using this thread as an interactive journal for my treatment by now. Have been on the verge of killing someone the past few days, completely broke down near the end of the appointment. Going to have my meds increased, have the appointment with the forensic psychiatrist made. He wanted to have a psychologist interview me along with him- my shrink said it's probably more for his comfort (because I'm female, yeah right) than for mine. I don't really care at this point.

Does anyone know of any fetish clubs, horror novel/movie fanclubs, or any other darker social group in England? I've got a little project to responsibly indulge myself and could use a recommendation for a good group of people that aren't CRAWLING IN THEIR SKIN.

>>64
>>65
on gurochan and horrified by something not sure if bumping, troll or an idiot

67 .

I know of a couple of goth groups in the UK.

The fourms for the Whitby Goth Weekend hXXp://forum.whitbygothweekend.co.uk/phpbb3/ may have some members that could point you in the right direction.

68 .

>>67
Thank you.

So, uh, I'm probably going to be hospitalized. Have been crying uncontrollably for days and have slept only a handful of hours. My shrink gave me some strong sleeping pills, forbid me from going to work for the rest of the week and wants me to do absolutely nothing other than sleep until then.

A padded cell and large amounts of therapy and sedatives are in my near future. On the bright side, I've been wanting to do nothing other than kill a lot of people and then myself over the past week, and the amount of self-control I've exhibited gives me a chance of actually getting some care instead of being a human guinea pig.

;_; fuck

my

life

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

69 .

>>68

What?? It's only going to be temporarily, right? Just until the urge subsides, or until they deem you "cured"?

70 .

I'm so sorry.
I hope it helps.

71 .

At least you'll get help for any other issues you might have, such as depression.

I hope everything goes well for you in the future, Necro. You'll be okay. Just remember that.

72 .

Hey, first of all, I really feel for you. I'm by no means in such a bad situation like yourself, but I know how it feels to be afraid of what you could do and to restrain yourself all the time T_T

I'd honestly let you stab me if it could make you feel any better.

Have you always been like this or thit it pogress from a certain point in time?

Hope everything someohow works out for you, I'll be checking this thread (not sure if it matters for you), but if that's any consolation - I'd never regard anyone as a monster no matter what their current mental stability is. It's all part of being human. You don't cross the line, there is no line, there is no "black" and "white". It's all a matter of degree. We're all fucked up at some level.

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>>69
>>70
>>71
Thanks, guys. It means a lot. I have no idea what to expect, but I'm going to ask to be committed tomorrow. I nearly stabbed my roommate while she was showering and just locked myself in the room and slept all day. I'm sure if I haven't done anything and it's voluntary, they'll only have me stay as long as necessary.

>>72
I've always been like this, just become more aware of how obsessed I am over time, making it harder to control, eventually don't care about anything else.

Thanks again. I don't feel human right now- fuck, I don't feel anything at all- but I'm going to do my damnedest to sort myself out without hurting anyone else. I doubt this thread will be up whenever I get out, but I'll still check back with you guys at some point in time.

Thanks for all of the support, GUROchan

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>>68
I have some advice: Those pills you're taking, did you feel more self-control when you weren't taking them? Sometimes they'll give you pills just so it looks like they're doing something. It's fucked up, they'll call you fucked up, they'll make fun of you, and then they'll drug you to the point where you have no control over what you do and then you actually do kill somebody; then they'll say that it's a tragedy and they tried when all along they knew what was going to happen. They're the real sick fucks.

Anyway, it seems too late now (just read >>73), but don't take such heavy drugs. They will fuck your mind up, wish I would have know of this thread earlier on.

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Haven't read the whole thread. I hope the hospitalization goes well, but it probably won't change anything fundamental. They really don't know how to deal with these things. They may bring in "experts," the experts will look at you as if you're some rare species of slug and shrug their shoulders. But maybe the therapy, drugs, and group interaction will do you some good.

As a male, I know it's possible to build sexual arousal based on pretty much anything by masturbating to the "point of no return" and then immediately visualizing whatever it is you'd like to be turned on by (usually vanilla sex). Over time, start thinking about vanilla sex earlier and earlier during masturbation, and continue thinking about it while you orgasm. You should slowly find yourself responding to vanilla sex, enough to at least enjoy it.

That's if the same technique works for girls, I really don't know. Either way, keep fighting the good fight.

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good luck my Necro friend.I don't know if the hospitalization will help you,i hope it does.In my country they would probably give up on you without a second thought...anyway

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Good luck! If this thread dies while you're gone, make a new one so we know what happened.

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I am into dead things too, and its just the way I am, I accept it! I have another necro friend, who bought real bones, there are sites where one can buy real bones.

I would never go to a therapy or such, they have the thinking that difference equals sickness, but why should it, just because current society is obsessed with health and fitness and youth?

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buying bones more like buying BONERS amirite?

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Hhhhhhhooooooolllllyyyyyy shiiiiiit

Well. Stayed at a hospital in England for a week and a half, they "looked at me like some rare species of slug" and had no idea what to do with me. Like, no idea. Snapped a handful of times but didn't do anything that wasn't fixed. They decided they couldn't do ANYTHING for me, and decided to ship me to the states. Thought it was fairly bad there, a bit like one Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest only with more chavs and old women.

Fuck
German
Hospitals.

Had to stay at one overnight to get a flight back to the states. My God. Four beds, one white room, no doors in the bathrooms, mandatory pajamas, restraints at the slightest sign of expressing an opinion, wouldn't give me my medication and tried to get me to take some antipsychotics instead, no form of entertainment, "group therapy" involved 14 patients (all suicidal excluding myself) and two doctors in a room built for five people, wakeup call at 4:00AM, didn't tell me when my escort came to get me, turned her away and kept me in the building for five more hours longer than necessary...

I could go on. But you get the idea. Fuck the Germans.

A few bus rides, the Autobahn, a military flight and a ride through 6PM traffic in an ambulance with sirens blaring, and I'm now at one of the largest medical facilities in America. There are two other people in my ward, and I'm treated like a human. Have a fair amount of confidence in the staff- they know their shit and even though they've been bringing in med students for any "therapy" I get just because I'm so fucking entertaining, I'm feeling better. Marginally. Enough to sleep again.

It's been nearly a week, but I'm chilling in a liberty center, on a laptop, drinking Monster and about to go get a smoke. Can keep a Gameboy on me, but not shoelaces.

...I just wanted to let you all know that I'm doing okay, that I'm optimistic, and to thank you trying to talk me out of getting any kind of health care overseas.

AMERICA
FUCK YEAH

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>>80

I'm glad to see that everything worked out in the end, even if it was a rough start (wtf Germany?) It's nice that they let you go on Gurochan, keep us informed of what's going on! I'm super curious as to what kind of therapy you'll be going through.

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You're from the states right?

Glad to hear you're feeling better, even if it is marginal. One step at a time, one day at a time (I know you didn't want to hear that, but ... it is quite true).

On the bright side, the fact that they are bringing in students (and I'm assuming a few professionals) means that you may very well be helping the medical profession learn how to help people with this problem. As this thread has shown, there's not very much information on this subject out there, likely because it's very rare condition, and even rarer for someone to actually want to go through what it takes to get better.

And, I'm noting that if I ever visit Germany, that it's not a good idea to have any sort of mental breakdown. That truly sounds like a horrible experience.

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at least you got out of this shithole in Germany...keep it up,and keep us informed:)

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I've been in a clinic in Germany and it was nothing like what you said. It was actually pretty cool. No idea where you've been xD

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Managed not to have any privileges revoked since the last time I posted. They've got me on an antipsychotic and some blood pressure medicine (low dose for anxiety), but no treatment in sight. Got an MRI today for my head. STANDING BY

>>82
I'll be sure to keep you guys updated. It might just be a forum, but having some real support helps a lot. I'm not necessarily allowed on here, but I took off the filter for the laptops available and have been wiping some basic history. It helps that the staff is usually playing video games or sleeping when I'm out. Treatment will probably be long-term conditioning and behavioral therapy. Less medication, more altering of my personality and behavior. Derp

>>83
Born and bred in California. Thank you for the advice. I've been asked several times as to how many people I'd be comfortable with seeing me simultaneously just so they could cram more students into the room. I'm glad I'm helping out, but honestly, you'd think the equivalent of a psychiatric lecture would be able to do me some good for all I'm helping them. Slow bastards.

>>84
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A woman that's currently staying here ended up in the same facility for THREE WEEKS. We were telling stories like we got out of prison, lol

>>85
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, ward 9C. If I can keep one person out of there, Jesus Christ. I'm sure the fact that it was a military facility exacerbated the problem.


Aaaaaaaaanyways. The only people in the building ATM are myself, an older black woman who acts exactly like my mother (read: childish parasite that can't stop crying) and the vegetative sociopath who's on constant, line-of-sight observation.

Bad environment for my mental health, but I get to do whatever the fuck I want and hang out with the staff, who are mostly cool. ...I might not be religious, but I'm praying my extended vacation here doesn't last more than a few weeks. ;_; I need more than twenty minutes of fresh air every day. And isolating myself so I don't bludgeon the other patients with a DVD player and rip their throats out with my teeth and disembowel them with plastic utensils is unsavory. To say the least.

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Mental health is a really tricky issue, so you can forgive the system for being inadequate. It's not exactly like removing a tumor or treating a viral infection. So little is understood about the human mind and how we think. Even conventional SSRIs that are so often prescribed for everything from bipolarism to social anxiety are poorly understood. It's just used because it's relatively safe (compared to tricyclic antidepressants and antipsychotics) and seems to make patients feel better in _some_ cases.

But I can relate to you. I've been committed for 24-hour observations more than once, and sometimes you can end up with a really bad on-duty physician, or you can end up with really chill staff that are pretty compassionate. And depending on the circumstance, it definitely can make things worse. The first time I was checked into a psych ward, it was a really traumatic experience for me. There's nothing to do except to look forward to the occasional smoke breaks we get. In many ways it's worse than prison since there're few people you can have a real conversation with, and you don't have access to a library or exercise yard. The way you get treated if you're committed rather than voluntarily checked in can also be pretty traumatic. Your civil rights mean jack all if someone claims you're crazy.

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>>86

What kind of treatments/therapy do they put you through? And what sorts of questions do they ask you? It makes me somewhat nervous that although I have a much, MUCH less severe version of what you have, I still have it, and that I might have to go through the same thing one day.

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>>88
So far they haven't given me any treatment or therapy. I'm going to be discharged tomorrow and stationed at a more local military base where I can be treated as an outpatient. Supposedly the doctors here have found a psychiatrist, psychologist and an orthopedic place I can go to. They're still trying to get in contact with the specialist in north America, but it's likely I won't be able to see him.

They pretty much wanted to know my entire life story, motivations, values, attitudes toward other people, what I find pleasurable about violence, murder and corpses, and what I would ideally like to do with myself, not just mentally and sexually, but my goals for the future.

Every single doctor I've been to thus far has pretty much gotten all of that information, thrown up their hands, tried to find a diagnosis that fit and then informed me medication would be of little use and I would need long-term therapy, then sent me on my way to someone else.

So long as you keep insisting that you haven't and won't act on anything, you'll be fine. I can think of at least twelve people that know the most intimate and violent things I've done with a consenting partner, and there's been no negative repurcussions for it. If you haven't done anything wrong and are just asking for help... and have a lot of fucking patience... you won't be tied up and locked away. Maybe locked away, but not restrained.

I fucking detest the medical system.

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What do you really expect them to do though? I imagine curing someone of necrophilia would be much like trying to cure someone of homosexuality (or heterosexuality for that matter). What exactly are you hoping for?

Just be thankful you're not a homosexual in the 1940s or 50s. Alan Turing was forcibly chemically castrated. You just had to be put under observation for a few days.

Also, you haven't seen the worst of the mental health industry. If you really want to know the worst-case scenario, look up the history of mental health in the U.S. or U.K. In past decades, many women who were very emotional or simply didn't conform to societal norms were committed for "hysteria" and forced to undergo things like electroshock therapy and all kinds of horrific treatments that did nothing but damage their body and mind. At least the doctors you've seen haven't recommended lobotomies or insulin comas to treat you. If a physician doesn't know how to cure you, then it's better they admit that rather than pretend like they know what they're doing and prescribing extreme treatments.

Also, considering you're in the military, you probably have some kind of health insurance. Each time I was committed, I was stuck with the bill. So not only did they do nothing for me, but I ended being in debt for years because of it.

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>>91
I'd say it'd be closer to pedophilia rather than homosexuality or heterosexuality. But either way, it is very true that there's not much as far as a cure out there. There are several types of long term therapy that have been shown to help paraphilias, but 'help' is the key word.

And I agree, better to be dealing with it now than 50 years ago. Even if women with lobotomies are pretty sexy in their own way.

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>>89
Yeah, i'm not really at a point where I need professional help, but i'm afraid it might happen to me at some point, so it's good to know I have a chance of not being locked up if I seek help at some point

>>92
Is it possible to cure a paraphilia? That's such a strange idea. I guess the most you could do would be to try and get someone to subconsciously associate the subject of their paraphilia with something unappealing.

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>>93
Aversion therapy can be successful. Antiandrogenic drugs often reduce sex drive, thus usually helps. I know my therapist mentioned one other method to me at one point, but it's not coming to me at the moment.

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Basically, paraphilia cannot be "cured" any more than homosexuality can. You can divert the mind from it, trick the mind, do mental training, but in the end it's like treating the symptoms and consequences in medicine, instead of the actual illness.

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Alright alright alright. I've been stationed at Ft Meade and am twiddling my thumbs in between appointments and getting everything set up again the the US. The doctors here seem competent, and they're honest. I was able to get my Tricare and two appointments taken care of today, and my new command is keeping their nose out of my business while being helpful as possible.

I'm not expecting to "cure" my sexual preferences, but there's some hope that all of the depression/anxiety/social stressors/homicidal ideation/lack of interest in anyone living/apathy etc. will be helped.

Oh, and I may be able to stay enlisted.

The guys at Bethesda couldn't even get my appointment times correct and I shared a good fucking laugh with a Major earlier today- apparently they're infamously incompetent. Haven't had my "personality and mood disorder" changed to a more reasonable diagnosis, but I won't be discharged until I go on a board and they actually look at my case.

raaaaaaah

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One more note: The last hospital that I stayed at, did in fact perform unnecessary lobotomies, surgical procedures, prescribed heavy amounts of antipsychotics and sedatives to render anyone that raised concern harmless and vegetative, left people in restraints for days without access to food or toilets, and regularly kept patients in solitary confinement just because they hadn't been blown up by an IED. The staff at Landstuhl (or so I've been told by two doctors here,) is far more fucked up than any patients that are admitted there. No shit I'm please that I wasn't born any sooner, but that doesn't make my experience acceptable or easier to swallow.

THERE ARE STARVING CHILDREN IN AFRICA WITH AIDS, WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING HOMELESS AND A DRUG ADDICT?

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Well, you weren't complaining about the people being given unwarranted lobotomies (though I very very much doubt that the hospital you were at have performed any such procedures within the two past decades; lobotomies are performed these days as necessary treatments to stop potentially fatal epilepsies as a treatment-of-last-resort, but not simply to cure people of schizophrenia or depression) were you? You were complaining about not being given an insta-cure for a very complex problem in a still very poorly understood area of medicine.

I'm not saying that you have no right to complain just because there are people who have it (much, much) worse, just that the things you happen to be complaining about are disproportionate to the level of your complaints.

And, more importantly, if there ARE the types of severe patient rights abuses you mentioned seriously going on in the hospital you stayed at, then what have you done to report these crimes to the authorities? That's seriously a lot more fucked up than the stuff you've been complaining about.

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>>98

And, more importantly, if there ARE the types of severe patient rights abuses you mentioned seriously going on in the hospital you stayed at, then what have you done to report these crimes to the authorities?
There is always the risk of the cops going all "how nice Mr. Crazy Man, now tell us about the time you've spent at the funny farm again". It's hard to lower yourself to police officers. I wonder how many gurochanners are cops. It takes a special kind of sadism to be one.

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>>96
All depends on how one defines 'cure'. Dictionary.com includes the following definition:
to relieve or rid of something detrimental, as an illness or a bad habit.
So, in this sense, obtaining relief could be said the same as being cured. If the relief is enough that the paraphilia is no longer a 'problem' for the person, even if there is some residue of the paraphilia, why not call them cured?

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>>99
Most cops are dicks. That's something I've personally experienced, but there are still ways to report these matters.

The worst case scenario is that you go to a police station to file the report, and the hospital says that you're just mentally imbalanced, and the police don't investigate. So then you get a lawyer involved. If your credibility is in question because of a hospital stay (the hospital is likely opening themselves up to further lawsuits if you actually turn out to be quite sane), then you just need to find people to defend your credibility (a lawyer + an independent mental health expert would be more than sufficient).

However, I was mostly referring to reporting them to the actual regulatory bodies that are meant to prevent these sort of medical malpractices--e.g. licensing boards, state medical boards, state social services agencies, state adult protective agencies, state health services departments, etc. Any patients rights groups would likely assist you in doing this.

However, anyone looking to report these sort of problems should be aware that the Church of Scientology has set up several websites and faux patient rights advocacy groups (e.g. the Citizens Commission on Human Rights) whose main purpose isn't to protect victims of health industry abuse, but rather to discredit psychiatry altogether, and these groups basically consider any kind of psychiatric treatment as medical abuses. So do a little research into any non-profits you turn to for help.

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>>100

I like to make a distinction between "relieved" and "cured". You are cured when your illness is gone, not when it's effects are somewhat dampened, lessened or when you no longer need relief from it.

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>>98
>>101
I have no desire to pursue persecution of the staff of a hospital in Germany that is associated with its host country and is protected by the United States. I wouldn't have to just report the matter to the regular authorities, I'd have to take up the case with a board of senior officers AND deal with international law. No fucking thank you, I don't want my mental stability ever called into question again (at risk of being put through more shit like that). I wasn't put through any of that garbage because I outright lied to the doctors and acted like a mute quadriplegic that had no need for basic hygiene, sleep, food or communication.

>>100
>>102
Let me make a BIG distinction here. The fact that I'm a necrophile doesn't bother me in the slightest. The fact that I can't help but fantasize about corpses and manslaughter while I'm masturbating and get turned on by something as small as a single maggot isn't hurting anything or anyone. It's the fact that NOTHING ELSE matters to me any more. If I can take care of this other shit, my sexual preferences will make little difference to me, so long as it isn't the ONLY thing in my life that I can get ANY pleasure from.

Even foot fetishists and pedophiles can find some substitute, or have something resembling a regular relationship. There has to be a way that I can do something similar.

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>>102
For me, cured (in addition to your definition) is when the symptoms are controlled to the point where one no longer has negative effects of the illness (or whatever). It is a point of view, clearly differing from yours, but is legitimate.

However, as our friendly resident necrophile has pointed out, this discussion is moot in this thread.

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So... my new medication seems to be working except for the increasing intensity of my dreams. I was able to go out Friday night with a group of friends I recently made, go to a shitty Tex Mex place, an arcade and see a new movie and actually enjoy myself. I think only once or twice I was overwhelmed and had to step away from the group, but I was still sociable and they actually wanted to hang out again. I've been sleeping the entire night through, and can wake up in the morning. I've been working out on a regular basis again. My appetite is slowly coming back. But my sex drive is really, really fucking high and I'm having dreams that are more intense than the ones that I had when I was a little girl and didn't know how to control them.

I'm starting a dream journal again. I'm thinking that as my treatment progresses it should be interesting to see ow they develop. I figured most of you would like to hear this one.
There was a man, with vaguely tanned skin and lanky, dark hair. He was a little chubby, and not much stronger than I was, but he had me pinned down by both of m hands and for some reason I couldn't move because I was in so much pain. He was putting most of his weight on my foot that's never healed, and was cutting the webbing on all of the fingers on my left hand. There was a skinny woman in a red dress standing off to the side while I tried to pry myself loose, and she was all in shadow except for the outline of her body.

The man stabbed through the center of my hand and led me by the handle of the knife to a table, twisting the blade as he stopped dragging me. We were outside, it was dusk and there were no lights in the canyon we were perched over. There was no sign of other people, just woods. I stopped feeling any pain when I noticed I had been placed on top of a table where there was a man, heavily decomposed, with mottled skin and a face so liquefied his eyes were beginning to run down to his nose and the edges of his mouth had slid nearly to the pile of skin and cartilage that used to be his ears. I was laying on top of him, both of us naked, and the slightest amount of pressure I put on his body as I started to spoon with him made me sink into his flesh, skin slipping down allowing his muscle to give just slightly enough for me to feel it. He was so soft. I must have had the knife pulled out at some point, because I was slowly fondling the side of his body until my hand reached something with a different texture- it was still moist, sponge-like, but gave as much as any other part of his body. It was only a moment before I realized the top of his head had been broken open and I'd found his exposed skull and brain. I was soaking wet- I crawled up so I was straddling his chest and could look at his face and cranium while I dug my fingers into every last centimeter of his skull, stopping every so often to kiss the sides of his face and the bits of muscle and bone that were just barely hanging on to the rest of his head.

I heard a voice, a little deeper than my own telling me to eat it. I knew I was about to die anyway, so any concern I had for catching any disease flew out the window. I took a handful that I was already fingering and it easily slid down my throat. The texture was beautiful- it was better than just feeling it with my hands and so I started to shovel his brains and the coagulated chunks of cerebral fluid into my mouth while my perspective changed to third person. I could still feel and smell everything- the mix of copper, putrescine, cadaverine, something reminiscent of dirt and stale air, sweat- and I noticed that man standing over me, smiling, somewhat surprised but seemed to like my actions more than what he had expected.
I came back to my own view and completely lost track of everything else. I had enough of the taste of his brains and my breasts were swollen and sensitive from me teasing them and smearing his brains and blood and some of one of his eyes on them. I was fingering myself with the same, but stopped to find his dick. Despite how soft he was, I slid himself into me with relative ease and came almost instantaneously. After that- well. I know what it's like to reach enlightenment. I wasn't euphoric, or disgusted, or even turned on- I just didn't need or want anything else. I was completely content. I laid for for what seemed like hours, or days, I just felt so at peace it's almost indescribable. I'll never forget that feeling.

I wasn't aware of any of my surroundings until the man from earlier in my dream pulled me away and started talking to me. We wordlessly had a conversation- he had some business running where his hands had to get messy, often, and I immediately volunteered to do his dirty work so long as I got to do what I wanted with the leftovers. I wasn't ecstatic at the opportunity, I was just slowly feeling a profound loss creep over me- like someone had cut off all of my limbs, given me a vivisection, removed part of my brain and kept me alive on some machine that caused me extreme pain. I desperately wanted to go back, but my entire perspective changed.

I was in a suburban neighborhood, with winding streets, quaint little houses, white picket fences. It was still dusk, but the brightness of the pavement and fences made it much easier to see what was around me. I was running. Suddenly, I was face-to-face with a woman with dark brown hair, in a black trench coat. She grabbed be by my shirt and pulled me up to eye-level with her. We were so close my body was flush with hers except for our faces, which couldn't have been more than an inch apart.

She claimed that she knew everything, and had my partner. I knew for some reason that she had absolutely nothing on me and was just trying to scare me. I smiled at her and laughed a little. It was bitter. I was still waiting. Nothing else compared to what I seemed to have felt only moments ago, but I knew it had been months. She seemed to have asked me why I did it. I was on the verge of tears. I wanted to say that nothing else made me feel anything, and it was the only thing in the world that mattered, but instead I just stared at her for a few minutes, unable to speak. It was like I was a shell of a human being and a black hole had taken everything in me before it imploded and left no room for anything else in me. I didn't feel like the living dead, it was like I had no physical presence and only the feeling of anguish and loss. Her expression softened, slightly, but she forced a frown and grabbed me tighter, holding onto some of my skin. I looked straight at her and said, simply, "I have to."

I woke up not long after that and felt like I had died.

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>>105
wow...that was intense...do the doctors ask you anything about your dreams?maybe it would help...

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>>106
They don't seem to care.

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>>107
Have you brought them up to the doctors? Does your medication interact with the dream cycle at all?

That's a pretty intense dream. I've had some intense ones in my life, but this is way out of the league that I've had. If you continue to have them this strong, it would be well worth have it checked out (though I don't know if science has figured out much about dreams), as dreams such as this are going to stress you, especially over time.

Otherwise, glad to hear you're getting out some and that your body is starting to react a little more normally.

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Well not gonna lie, the sex part of your dream was bonerificating. The rest, well. I hope you get better and return to being a happy, normal necrophile.

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Had a theory presented to me the other day. I hadn't been sleeping for so long, and my circadian rhythm had become so disturbed, and my memory has been deteriorating so badly, when I started sleeping for more than 30 minutes at a time my mind was trying to catch up. Like a computer shutting down. I left my running for 19 years, and now every time that I turn it off it doesn't want to start back up again because it has so much to process. Hence the wildly intense dreams.

They're supposed to get better in time, and I'm having one of my medications reduced... in the meantime, wet dreams every night

ALL NIGHT ERRY NIGHT

On a more positive note, it seems that I'm going to be honorably discharged and will keep all of my benefits. I've made several friends in the local area that don't mind that I'm at the bottom of the rabbit hole and are throwing me some lanterns and rope to help me out. And by climbing equipment I mean sharing their car, saving a small house to rent out to me on their property and being fucking awesome.

;_; I'm so goddamn happy I've found some people that aren't terrified and sickened by me. There's a guy here who's really introverted and sweet, and he asked me out a few days ago. We've been cuddling, watching slasher films and playing vidya together. He's not a masochist, but I think it's really good for me right now to try and have a comforting, normal relationship.

I'm still a human guinea pig- had nine vials of blood taken today, along with some piss tests and five mental health evals... yet no word on therapy when I get out. There are five doctors that are bending over backwards and jumping through flaming hoops made of constantine wire to try and get me the best care possible for when I'm a civilian again. I have my fingers crossed that SOMEONE will figure out SOMETHING that can do. I bought a knife a few days ago- there are groundhogs all over the base I'm staying at and they declare an open hunting season this time of year for them. Keeping it on me only when I'm hanging out with at least six other Marines and know that they'd tackle me before I could do anything.

hhhhhhnnnnggggg
feel like a recovering heroin addict

/WORST MONTH OF MY LIFE

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One thought that I had a day or two ago, I was wondering if these dreams frighten you or arouse you (or both). Hard to say from the text.

That theory does make sense. If I recall correctly, dreams are a primary way for the subconscious mind to 'relax' and just like the body, if it hasn't fully relaxed in a long time, it tends to need a lot of relaxing before it's normal.

The key to finding the beauty in life, without having your preferred 'fix', is to choose to see it. Life is full of subtle beauty, however, those fresh out of addictive behaviours tend not to see it. As a recovered hard drug user (meth, heroin) and a recovering alcoholic I know this to be true.

And, speaking of climbing, if you haven't seen the movie, The Decent, I would suggest it to you.

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That is an awesome movie. I heard there was a sequel floating around.

However, I don't think dreams are for your subconscious to relax per se. During pre-REM sleep your brain does seem to be at rest, but during REM sleep, your brain activity rockets to the same level as when you're awake. (And when you haven't had REM sleep in a long time, you'll skip most of the early sleep stages and dive right into REM sleep. If you're sleep-deprived for too long, then you'll actually "dream" while awake, which can be quite dangerous.) Scientists don't fully understand why we dream, but the leading theories are that it's a way for you to:
1.) process the day's memories, discarding most, putting some into long-term storage (hence why sleep deprivation can wreak havoc on your memory)
2.) confront/overcome/desensitive you to traumatic events or any anxieties about the future; so if you're afraid of heights or snakes or whatever, your mind will constantly force you to face the fear in a safe, simulated virtual environment where there's no potential of actual injury. This also plays into the next purpose.
3.) prepare you for future events by simulating scenarios that you might face. So even though dreams are usually quite bizarre, sometimes they allow you to "practice" for reality. For example, it was found that when test subjects played a ski simulator right before sleep, they tended to dream about the game, going over the same runs in their head; and when they played the game again the next day, their performance dramatically improved from the night before.

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So I very rarely visit gurochan anymore, but for some reason I found my way to this thread today, and read nearly the entire thing. I must say I've been rooting for you the whole way through OP. You are fun to read. In fact, the way you speak about yourself and your situation in type is so level-headed and honest that it is hard for me to picture you having mental breakdowns. This isn't to say that I don't believe that you do. I'm just wondering: what is your irl communication with people around you like? Are you funny? Can you handle teasing and jokes? Do people like you? Do you feel carefree and chatty ever? I think it's wonderful that you are enjoying cuddling with your new friend, but I was upset to see that you are carrying a knife, especially after the close call with wanting to stab your roommate in the shower. I know you are doing better, but just throw that knife down the drain gutter somewhere. If an officer or doctor finds that on you you're going to be much worse off. Good luck Necro. I think you've got a long road ahead--probably a scenic one, too--but just stay on it and I think you'll make it somewhere nice eventually.

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>>114
Thanks you so much for all of the support.

I've been able to think more clearly in the past few weeks than I ever have before. Unfortunately it's taken a lot of medication, but I'm sure that with some more therapy I'll be able to lead a good life. Sometimes the medication alone isn't enough- I'm still incredibly stressed out and even the smallest annoyance weighs on me like a mountain. Enough of that and if I can't express myself violently, I despair and break down like a fucking child.

I've been socializing a lot more. Apparently I'm friendly, easy to get along with, entertaining, educated, experienced and fairly attractive. I can be a "bitch" but it's just me keeping myself in line by expressing my intention to kill, skin alive and rape whoever is irritating me without me permanently injuring them.

...when I'm with my boyfriend I can feel safe and... not carefree. Or relaxed. But I know he doesn't mind any of my numerous flaws and is here for me. It's more than I can ask for.

I'm not going to throw away any weapons I buy or have mailed back to me, but I have absolutely no intention of using them. Just take the other night for example- I volunteered to be the DD for a group of friends that were going out drinking (didn't want to mix alcohol with all of my medication). Had a vehicle all to myself when I dropped them off, was out of state, had no identification, no one to report to. Rope, knives, even cleaning products and gloves ready and waiting. I went straight back to one of their houses and had a buddy stay with me and accompany while we drove back (I had him take the wheel since I was sweating like a fat kid eating cake and couldn't see straight), and didn't do a goddamn thing. Just saying.

...so, I'm doing a little better. It's getting easier to keep myself in line. It still kills me everytime, but at least now I have some support and a way to keep me distracted that doesn't involve drinking or losing my fucking mind and isolating myself.

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Hhhhnnnnnnggggg

Looks like I'm being honorably discharged with full benefits, including for my mental health. There's a forensic psychiatrist in the building I've been getting medication from, and she's going to give me information for intense treatment at a local facility- likely five days a week for several months.

Have a specific house picked up, will be purchasing it in a few weeks. Looking for a job. Too drugged to drive. Have the attention span of a squirrel because I'm trying so fucking hard not to hurt anyone.

I'm happier with my new friends on the weekend then I've ever been, but it's so fucking difficult not to do anything to them. I apparently don't do well with teasing. One of them playfully punched me in the arm and I went straight for their throat without thinking, and only realized that they were under me coughing and trying to pull me off when someone came up behind me and tried pulling me off. ...they were okay with it afterward but they all know better than to touch me now.

Also accidentally broke my boyfriend's pinky finger. I don't remember why. The same night I managed to cum in the same bed as him- without hurting anyone or looking at a corpse. Not sure if I'm making progress in the right areas.

My psychologist seems to think that it's still a good idea for me to force myself to be around the people that can tolerate me and continue to write and draw. He's even encouraging me to write a story in between our sessions and share it with him. I told him I'd rather not show anything to him- he says it's confidential. A friend of mine said he wanted to and talk about it with me... so I'm pretty sure I'm going to do that instead.

So fucking difficult god dammit

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Am I the only one who thinks that OP is a dumb troll?

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Maybe, but so are you. And at least she is entertaining.

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>>116
Also accidentally broke my boyfriend's pinky finger. I don't remember why. The same night I managed to cum in the same bed as him- without hurting anyone or looking at a corpse. Not sure if I'm making progress in the right areas. 1) ouch. 2) that is good progress.

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hey op! you still doing fine? :)

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Thank you, person who bumped. It took forever, but I enjoyed reading this thread.

I, too, would like to know how Necro is doing!

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I can only offer my support.

Necrophile, wherever you are, I hope you are doing well, and that life is being somewhat less shitty to you.

Ideally, the fact that you haven't needed to post here means you're too busy leading a happy and productive life. Either that, or you're going cold-turkey from guro and trying to lead a more "normal" existence.

In any case, good luck!

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My suggestion is find a girl who is receptive to your uh, unique interests (no, I don't mean willing to let you kill her, though if she did that would be a sweet bonus) and get her all made up to look like a corpse, with those shadowy eyes and pale, clammy skin, perhaps blood, and so forth (come to think of it you could buy one or two "zombie" contact lenses to enhance the illusion). You can do the makeup yourself, have her do it, have a friend help, whatever. Then try your luck having sex with her while she lies still, somewhat stiff, and for best results as part of a scene you set up where she plays a dead person who may or may not become undead while having the sex... be imaginative here, and remember, priority 1 is quality of the illusion. You can fool your necrophile subconscious more than you think you can if you put in enough effort.
Let me know if you try this how it works out.

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>>123

I think she said she tried this already, though I could be wrong

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Whoa! Didn't realize OP was a girl, totally assumed it was a guy. Also my apologies for not reading the whole page, it's over 100 posts long and I was not feeling that patient.

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>>52
So, am I the only one who feels bad for the doctor? It's true that OP went through a lot of stress because of him, but to move to America and spend so much time learning English, and then get demoted because of a misunderstanding along with the shame and guilt he must have felt when he realized he made a mistake sounds even more stressful.

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>>126
>America I could be remembering incorrectly, 'cause it's been a LONG while since I read this thread, but I'm pretty sure that part took place while stationed in England. Again, I could be wrong about that.

Also, he's a DOCTOR. "First, do no harm." I'd say he fucked up. He should have asked for clarification or SOMETHING before jumping to conclusions. And if he didn't understand English well enough to understand in the first place, he shouldn't have gone into that profession until he DID.

Sorry, not trying to sound angry. My apologies if it came off that way.

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>>122
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>>127
Look at OP's last post. What are you guys, thread necrophiles?

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Well... Congrats to OP who not only had to go through all this bullshit but also is continuing to try so hard to better themselves.

On a mostly unrelated note I now have lost hope in ever trying to get help for myself. To clarify, not a necrophile, but I stand by my sentiments.

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>>128 Yes. ;P

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>>128

i am quite grateful this was bumped because it's been a very interesting read which i may not have noticed otherwise. it would be a shame to find this fall into obscurity.

hopefully more aspiring psychiatrists like >>44 will stumble across this thread, and will be able to offer support for this type of mental distress with a more open mind. first-hand accounts of the medical system are most valuable in identifying where that system is failing, after all.

it's idealistic to hope, but one day i'd like to feel i can seek the support of a professional without the lurking fear of judgement or them jumping to vastly exaggerated conclusions) - the same fear that they are supposed to prevent - and not to have to go through an exhausting chain of referrals like OP simply because each professional is at a loss.

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>>128
A thread this sexy deserves a good bumping. I'd bump this dead thread all night long, oh baby!

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What the fuck did I just read?

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Bumping again. I wonder what happened to Necro.

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I would love to read a book about your situation. The way you write makes me feel like I could somehow know you if we ever met

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Fascinating. I just sat and read this entire thing, start to finish. I hope Necro is well, wherever she is. Sucks about what she went through, but I know that feel - been through the mental health system (for marginally less "fucked up" stuff, since I kept my "fucked up" stuff to myself) and yes, it definitely is made of... well, I can't think of anything that isn't someone's fetish, and I wouldn't want to insult anyone. Let's see... made of... vanilla sex? ;)

Anyhow, this thread is definitely worth the read - assume it fact or fiction, it's interesting from either perspective, and made me think a little more about the cultural view of necrophilia and other paraphilias, and even how that has subconsciously affected my own views of such. (Raised Christian, talking about sex, or engaging in anything besides missionary, for any reason besides procreation, with anyone besides your heterosexual spouse, totally taboo... and yes, I am on Gurochan, and no, it's not just for my own entertainment. You do the math on how fucked up that makes a person.)

And FWIW, even if she was trolling, it was bloody interesting. Thank you, OP, whatever your motivations for sharing.

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upboat if reddit sent you here looking for an AMA

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I suggest you oughta channeling your vivid imaginations into something productive yet still managed to expressing your fascination into it. Like drawing, painting guro art, or like some peeps suggests, find a likeminded partner, cosplaying about death scene, or maybe participating in some bogus snuff movies or be a part of horror movies. Or, becoming a mortician, if you are so fascinated by it.
But i want to warn you strongly if you're thinking of doing a real stuff snuff movie shit. Unlike orgasms which can happen multiple times, you only find death once. So think real really hard.

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Someone didn't read the whole thread...

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I'm sure you'll all be happy to hear that I am doing MUCH better than I ever thought was possible. A lot has happened since my last post. It's been just over a year since I was first admitted to a psychiatric hospital, guro-chan, and I figured it was high time to see if this thread still existed. Happy to see it's still kicking.

Shortly after I was discharged from the military, I collapsed under the mental pressure and attacked my (now ex-, obviously) boyfriend with a knife and nearly killed him. I stopped myself before I did any fatal harm, but he's permanently disfigured. I was arrested, banned from all US military bases, had charged filed against me for assault with a deadly weapon, and things went to shit for a while.

I was put on hormonal treatment that's affectionately referred to as chemical castration by the press. Was on that for three months, in addition to a plethora of other meds. Was gradually weaned off of them as my psychiatrist noticed that they were doing more harm than good. Somehow I managed to find a job and an apartment, fix up my car and get my case together. I went through three apartments and two jobs in that period of time. You can guess how well I was handling all of that stress, while heavily medicated and still being denied treatment.

I was assigned a public defender and they did one hell of a job. The charge was negotiated down to a misdemeanor, and the judge wanted to dismiss the case, but HAD to charge me with something, as it was a federal case. I'm on a year of probation- so I HAVE to be given therapy.

Rather than being given intensive treatment, I was lied to by those precious military doctors. In fact, I was put in group therapy for an hour each week, and received no personal treatment whatsoever until just two months ago. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Two months. It took a court order and a very kind, inexperienced therapist to volunteer to see me pro-bono for me to get any treatment, and it was just in the last two and a half months.

You know what I've accomplished in those two months? I've been able to be medication free. I don't want to hurt anyone anymore, let alone kill them. I've gained an understanding of how I ended up in that crisis, why I felt compelled to do those things, where my necrophilia came from, I've managed to feel emotion, guilt, compassion... just a little over two months of therapy and I've come further than most of those doctors ever thought was possible- than I ever thought possible.

I still have those intrusive thoughts and compulsions. I'm still working a shitty job that I struggle at, simply because I'm around others. I'm still attracted to the dead, but I can see now how wonderful other people can be, that they aren't just objects to be exploited...

Here's the kicker, though. So, I'm making all of this progress with my therapist, things are going good- turns out that the psychiatrist who I was supposed to be seeing on a frequent basis, that drugged me up and turned me over to someone else's care, just like the rest of them, has ordered me to take a polygraph test. This prick, who has almost no involvement in my care, refuses to believe what I say and needs a biased test infamous for false-positives to believe what comes out of my mouth.

My psychiatrist is insisting that for him to even consider seeing me on a more regular basis, after MONTHS of me begging for care, after finally throwing in the towel on his blind ass, that he needs the results of a polygraph.

His assistant, my therapist, the ONLY professional that has ever made a concerted effort to help me and done any good, has admitted multiple times that it's probably her inexperience that aids her most. She isn't so tied up in the system that she loses sight of her patients.

FUCK every last one of those jaded, self-righteous, pretentious doctors. I don't care how many degrees you have. I asked for some compassion and a listening ear. It was all I needed. Not any brain scans, not chemical castration, not prison, sedation or any other method of restraint. I just needed to be treated like a human being and shown that people aren't as monstrous as I was made to believe. I hadn't been shown anything otherwise.

I pray to God that I'm just an exception, and that there aren't many other people out there that have had to put up with the same bullshit. I hope that there isn't anyone else out there that went asking for help, and wound up worse off for it. I hope that I was just terribly unlucky, and saw the wrong side of psychiatry- that they're simply too inexperienced to handle this kind of case professionally, and that they all learned something.

If nothing else, I'll keep you all updated. I'm just starting to get back on my feet... I'd hate for a fucking psychiatrist to kick me back into the gutter again because they can trust a machine more than my word. god forbid they invest any time into their patients.

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>>140
i'm really happy for you!

i wish i could afford a psychiatrist...i am not really a danger to others or anything but sometimes i wanna talk about things like that and the fact the no one knows about my guro addiction doesn't help.I think i would be releaved and maybe even a bit more self-confident if i had someone to say these things.

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>>140

That's wonderful, I'm honestly glad to see that things have turned out so well in the last couple of months. You've done a great job!

Also, can't you refuse him? He can't demand to see you against your will, can he?

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>>140
Man, I would never have guessed you would end up posting again! Great to hear you no longer feel the need to bring harm to others. Fuck baby-steps, you're improving by leaps and bounds! ... If this is all true, of course. If not, you're a damn good writer.

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>>140
Holy hell's bells, Batman! I did not honestly believe that we would hear from you again.

It's great to know that you're still around. It's even better to know that you've made progress and that you found someone to talk with!

...It sucks to hear that things are still shitty on the "system" end of things, though.

Almost makes me want to become a counselor just so I can actually help people caught up in situations like yours where people don't LISTEN.

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>>140

Awesome! Keep up the good work, we're rooting for you! Know that you have our support here even if people on your end do not.

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Is it only me that read the part where she mentioned that she stabbed and permanently disfigured a guy? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're a great person behind the sadism and necrophilia, but I hope you can see now why people might have been afraid... Can you really blame them?

Anyway, I'm still glad to see you're doing better, and I hope you can continue to do so.

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>>146
Read it. Can only bring myself to care on the most basic of levels. Like, "Oh, that's a shame." And then just turn really curious about what sort of "disfigured" he is, now.

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>>147
... I'm more interested as to WHY she did it.

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i actually suspect that this is some kind of (admittedly interesting) social experiment to gauge this community's reaction to such a story. note the gradual lowering of the protagonist's sympathetic tendences. she goes rather abruptly from a misunderstood "crazy" (not really crazy, just odd) to a obsessive killer type in like ~3 posts. in the most recent update, she claims to have irreperably scarred some poor dude and basically gotten away with it (which amusingly is a huge misfire of justice) what you would take away from such an experiment (that people on the internet do not care? kind of a poinltess thing to gather, it is the internet after all) or maybe it's all true and she just really is crazy. not that that takes away from my enjoyment of the story at all.

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I actually suspect this isn't the same person.

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>>149

As a social experiment this doesn't make a whole lot of sense, although since the advent of this thread at least three other threads like it have emerged, including one created by me, of people asking for thoughts on their particular rendition of this kind of problem. If there is a social experiment to this, which is only as possible as this being legitimate, then I don't think it has an ultimate purpose.

There is not a wide variety of places to vent these kind of problems, I think.

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Didn't she also do all those necrophile threads on /r9k/? Cause if so that's am AWFUL lot of effort to put into a troll, over a very long period of time, and with no obvious trick or point to it all. Unless they're just someone who enjoys taking people along for a ride, but it would still be incredibly unusual.

Also, you forget the long period of time over which there posts were made. She is clearly am unstable individual (hopefully getting better), I don't think any of her posts were inconsistent or 'out of the blue'.

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>>140

Luka Magnotta? Is that you?

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im almost positive that necrophilia isnt illegal in indiana or wisconsin.

hope this helps

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Thank you so much to everyone that's offered support in these threads. I had made them without realizing how much I needed to feel as if anyone out there actually cared. It made all the difference in the world to know that there was at least one place that I wouldn't be demonized.

The man that I had attacked and not killed was an ex-boyfriend of mine. I was under an extreme amount of psychological pressure, heavily medicated, and my inhibitions were dramatically lowered. I hadn't expected being left alone in the same room as him to be as hard on me as it was, but I wasn't able to control myself at the time and attacked him. I never wanted to harm him, and certainly not kill him. Last I've heard, he has extensive scarring on his face and arms, but no lasting damage that hinders his military service. I regret it horribly and can only hope that staying out of his life will be sufficient. Being prosecuted for attacking him would serve no purpose whatsoever. I was sick, and had no other alternatives. I was irresponsibly released back into society without any care and fuckton of medication, mistreated, and expected not to relapse. It was a fucking disgusting situation and the ones that should be held responsible are protected by the government. If it puts anyone at ease, I'm on probation, monitored, and under the supervision of a therapist and psychiatrist whom I report to on a daily basis to ensure that I'm staying safe.

I've been doing remarkably well. Better than I ever thought was possible. It would seem extreme and outlandish for me to put any of this down when only a few months ago I was no better than a shell of a human being, but I suppose it's worth writing, regardless.

Anyone who had my upbringing, was in the same environment as I was, would have wound up in a similar position if not one remarkably worse. I'm in a good home now, with a stable job, and have found people who care about me. I'm no longer a misanthropist. I've been educated. I can see that there are other ways for me to gain satisfaction and pleasure from my life, apart from hurting others. It feels fucking amazing, gurochan. I wouldn't wish the living hell that I was in on anyone, not even the "doctors" that had seen me in the past.

I wish the best of luck to anyone who feels like they have no one to turn to, or that things will never improve. ...if I had ever stopped fighting, I wouldn't have gotten out of that nightmare I was in.

I don't know if my experience is applicable to other people with similar interests. My motives were the result of a lot of pain and a lack of experience. It's a fucking shame that I had never seen any decency in humanity, first hand, for so long, but it finally showed itself and that was all I really needed.

I have measures in place so that I will be institutionalized for a very, very long time if I ever harm anyone again, but there is such a low risk of that happening that my probation officer rarely contacts me any longer. I've been able to travel, make friends, and start to care about others. No one thought that I was anything other than a lost cause... I can't thank you all enough for the support and I wish you all the best. I may update this thread once more again when my probation ends, if it is still up by next March.

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Am quite happy to return after being gone for a while and see you back, at least just to update. Sounds like you're doing well.
It is amazing how much a little compassion when you're dealing with something intense can go such a long way. And willingness to just accept someone for how they are and help the person grow, understand and overcome their obstacles. I remember several years ago, first starting to question (to a couple trusted friends) if my issues involved more than just crossdressing, and the reaction I got was such a shutdown. But last year when I again questioned it (again, to a couple, different, trusted friends), and the reaction was so different, that I was able to take a few steps that I wasn't before. And now, I'm so much better.

Sounds like you've had a rough year or so since I last heard from you, but also sounds like you're doing well enough, considering. I hope it continues to get better.

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>>155
Same poster as:
>>143
and a few other posts I'm too lazy to track down for the sake of reference

I'm honestly happy for you. I was a tad taken aback by the news of your attack, but it wasn't really as if (assuming you were truthful) I was in any position to judge.

Still, I've been following this thread since a little after it began, and I genuinely felt empathy for you and your trials, if only because I could relate mindset-wise. I am, to use your words, "inexperienced" when it comes to worthwhile humans, and the practice of waxing idiotic on the idea that there are no such people tends to appeal to me sometimes. It's a matter of upbringing, but I'll leave it at that.

I sincerely hope that your life continues to improve.
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